SoCal Beach Wolf [Thrones W.A.R - Top4, 8th in Swiss] 1.0

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Thank you for the list and info. Looks like a lot of fun to play! A few questions: 1)do you have a typical order in how you play your plots? 2)do you prefer to be first or second player? 3)how exactly does the Ramsay/Arianne interaction work? Would you return Arianne to your hand and sacrifice another character if you used Arianne’s ability to bring Ramsay into play? 4)is it preferable to play First Snow before or after Ramsay enters play?

Sorry if these are dumb and obvious. Thanks!

Hey, @jehamric!

1) Generally FFF / Riddle as opener and Trade Routes on plot 5-6. In between everything depends on boardstate.

2) Almost always 2nd player(your econ relies on it), but a good play is Marched ---> Go First ---> Ramsay to clear a big char or two.

3) It was ruled for a while that you could discard Arianne to Ramsay before she returns to hand. This was a viable play if you had extra Arianne cards in hand, but has since been clarified to not work by FFG.

4) Usually you want to setup a First Snow ---> Marched ---> Go first ---> Ramsay. Or First Snow ---> Arianne ---> Ramsay ---> Marched.

/Buzz

Sounds good. Thank you!

Jake

First I want to say great job guys with this deck

1) I saw you said that bubble card is Harrenhal (GoH). I guess that you use it instead of Vengeance for Elia? and Is it kinda expensive to have and setup?

2) I think that Duel is very very situational card since in this meta there are many low cost decks. So, which from "bubble list plot" is best to have?

3) Palace Spearman is great option, but instead of what card?

4) Arya Stark (TFM) + Valar Morghulis ?

Thank you in advance for answers. Cheers

5) What do you think of Political Disaster+Frozen Solid?

Hello @jedinstven! 1) Yes, I found HH weak to GJ and to take up the same slot as an event. I like it if you play Morgulis.

2) The easy change would be Dohaeris. It is very good against GJ and Tyrell, but it is weak against Martell and Targ. So it depends on your meta. Morgulis is a lot better against Targ and Martell.

3) I am not sure. New Obara should be fit in first. If you have too few Power icons you can cut whatever you like. Power icon is king.

4) I think new Arya is overhyped. Maybe in a version without First Snow. My version relies very much on her stealth, dupe and power icon.

5) PD is great but it might mean you have to hold back your FroSo unless you have multiple. I would personally avoid it. Building Orders to find more FroSo (or FB) is probably better.

@BuzzHello again :)

I found this gameplan pretty good testing it last few days. And, as unwritten rule, there is BUT... but, i found pretty big problem facing -STR (current meta targ deck). I changed as suggested to VM plot against them, and everything was good for a few round leading 9:0 in power until i found myself without a unique character that can enter game since dragon events killed them all. I totally screwed his gameplan with Flea, clearing board and discarding his cards from board and hand.

So, biggest dissadvantage is there is no Judgment and no way to save them. Close Call has no place here.

So, can you give me some advice how u go against them?

Thanks in advance

Targ is a bad matchup for Targ in general. It takes a lot of practice to understand when it's okay to let characters die and when you need to play slow. If you don't have FroSo on their Flea Bottom it's very hard.

His Viper Eyes is key to the Matchup and you have some cards that are very good vs them. Vengeance for Elia, Tears, HH, Ward, First Snow - All very good vs Targ(But their burn is even better against you).

The big issue is that you like to play with small boards and so do they. The Burn causes very big swings, especially during Military challenges. Drawing your dupes & Hotah is important so that you can stave off some Military presence. That's the thing though, the list of cards you need to see in order to beat the is a lot longer than the list they need to beat you. It is a very hard matchup, but with a lot of resilience and practice you can bring it to a ~45% Matchup.

Hi @Buzz and tnx for explanation. I have long and hard battles against them, saving frozen solid for flea, astapor, punishment in that priority order. The thing you dont mention is Judgment. You dont think thats crucial defense against 3 different - STR events, since i keep Gardens standing all the time for defense?

@jedinstven I have never been a big fan of Judgement. It's often a dead card, because it only works if opponent also has events in hand or run events at all - which isn't always the case.

But you're right that it would be good vs Targ. But at cost for other matchups.