How to Train your Dragon to Stand Lannisters

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ycombinator 243

Lannister is stronk. It is stronger when you have an efficient package to match, and plenty of stand effects to provide both constant pressure, and consistent defense.

This is largely untested, thus I'd like to see what people think. I'm hoping this is a decent shell to build on.

This is a combo deck that works decently without the combo out. The many pieces of the combo, each of which increases efficiency:

Summary. Maximum efficiency enables discarding up to 6 cards/turn (during The Winds of Winter), while drawing 4. Realistic levels of efficiency are likely discard 2-4, draw 2-4.

The rest of the deck exists to shore up the weaknesses of this combo (lack of military, character removal/maiming, and the necessary economy).

Why ?

  • A strong suite. We're decked out with Cersei Lannister, Tyrion Lannister, and Grand Maester Pycelle to provide strong pressure, and - along with Lannisport - strong card draw.
  • A strong multi-challenge package. Casterly Rock is hard to use as you need a lot of out for it to be effective. However, throw in some strong stand effects, and you're in business. Combine with Lannisport, your card advantage is off the charts (they discard, you draw x 2).
  • Bank. Lannisport Moneylenders and Tywin Lannister take the amount of bank into ridiculous territories. What to do with all that money? Tywin Lannister is obvious. Wouldn't i be nice if we could spend money to have a repeatable effect that increases our pressure and defense? Bring in the dragons.

Weaknesses of .

  • Limited fiasco. This deck has a lot of limited cards (10), but not so many that they'll clog your hand on average draws. We're down to 2 The Kingsroad to minimize this.
  • All-in military. The military that's worth a crap in is concentrated into two cards: Tywin Lannister and Ser Jaime Lannister. If you don't draw them, they're Milked, or removed, things can get hard quickly.

Why ?

  • Mainly Magister Illyrio. I know he isn't normally that great. Two gold is a hefty price. That is, unless your swimming in money. See "Bank" above. Done. Summons to help us find him. Tyrion Lannister makes using the Magister free. This combo hopefully doubles the efficiency of already very efficient cards.
  • Military efficiency. Though one dimensional, Braided Warriors, Drogon, and Ser Jorah Mormont are quite efficient military. Unsullied help too. They will hopefully tide us, or at least provide cannon-fodder, until Tyrion Lannister and Ser Jaime Lannister can arrive. This hopefully will address the military downside of .
  • Dragons. If one could play with dragons, why wouldn't you?

The package

The cards are really here only to reinforce the main goals of the deck, rather than bolster weaknesses.

The s

4 comentarios

ycombinator 243

After a lot of draw-testing, it seems like there is a good balance of character costs to consistently well-utilize a 4 gold plot. Any feedback on this from people who've played more?

Also, what are people's opinions on 2x vs 3x of uniques. I have a lot of 3x in here for consistency. If they stay on the board, this is OK, I think. However, with good removal, the resulting dead-draws, and lower number of unique icons could hurt. Or not. I'm not sure.

Opinions?

omgitsblake 189

I would probably go up to 3 on Ser Jorah Mormont, just because he's so good.

omgitsblake 189

Also how do you feel having no Wildfire Assault or Varys?

ycombinator 243

@omgitsblake: Sorry for the long delay in response. I didn't see this comment till now.

Ser Jorah Mormont is amazing. No doubt. The problem is that he is more likely to be a dead-draw than other uniques (given his time bomb). So the question is simply: do you want the increased consistency of getting him early, or do you want to avoid the dead draw? In this case, I wanted to use the slot for the Unsullied to up the decks ability to make challenges.

The initial idea behind the deck was to be able to continually build board state, so the board sweeps were unappealing. That said, I could certainly imagine swapping Heads on Spikes for Wildfire Assault.

Great comments! Both of these are worth testing.