The NeveRenly Story of a Dancing Queen - Winner @ITA Nats 1.0

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Best Mace <3

Congrats on the great win Nimer! I preferred the Italian name though ;).

Congrats on the win! You are really the best Voltron player XD

Now, Go conquer the world!

Amazing deck and amazing performance, both as expected! :)

I agree, playing the new Mace just feels right. :P My deck was lacking the amount of control you have with Begging Brothers, Milk of the Poppy, and Brother's Robes. Kneel just isn't enough right now. Supporting the Faith is a great idea I'll borrow from you if I may. :P

I'm not sure if the Devout Freerider/Scheming Septon interaction is awesome or nasty, though. :D

we are pleased to have participated, especially by friends! but the victory is because nicolò is a phenomenal player

What was the Italian name Wamma? Congrats again Nimer, I'm sure you'll get the World Cahmpionship title this year. Oh, and about the name, it was a thing that came up yesterday night between the two of us :D You're more than welcome!

Hey guys! Thanks a lot tk everyone! The italian name was "Metto Vacca rialzo Vacca", something like "I play a big dude (beef maybe?) i stand a big dude... :P

U great player, 2 National, 2 regional and top 4 world, contratulation deserved prize

Play cow, stand cow, to be precise :)

Or as Google Translate says "I put a cow upside down"

Fantastic deck and description

How did you deal with Milks on your own Renly? I see just the Brother's Robes for that. Is this accurate? Or did you just dodge that fate all day?

@euphius Brother Robes yeah. That's why I played 9 the seven characters. ;)

Hi Nimer! Congratz to your win. The deck has a few sweet interactions. Just wondering what was the losses? It feels to me that the deck might be fragile on the setup. I have tried to click on '7' below the deck few times and got stressful results :) Thanks!

Hi @Raius! The first loss was against a tyrell dragon deck who did setup renly host and after turn 1 had plaza and renly with queensguard. Double intimidate destroyed my game plan, and the two qohor triggers I was able to do were forced into milking renly twice. I waited for my opponent's mistake to try to recover but it never happened. GG to him for a deserved win.

The other loss was a matchup I was prepared to face, but he did setup rickon (I did have aegon in shadows) and I overfocused on getting rid of the kid. A first turn mil claim where I killed quaithe instead of removing a dupe from Mace made him win by one the intrigue challenge the turn after on the game of thrones turn. He topdecked wyman that turn but still I think that the loss was due to my mistake, not evaluating the importance of quaithe on the board the turn after. He didn't make mistakes as well and was able to close on turn 3. GG again.

Setups are "bad" yeah. The deck is really heavy. The thing is you have a lot of economy in the plots, a lot of draw and basically no weak characters even if they are 40. That means more quality so you basically need to understand which setup is "good enough" for the matchup and don't try to be greedy.

Apologies as I am a novice. I do not understand why Renly + Queen's Guard is "broken" level good.

I see the synergy that yes you can win a challenge, trigger insight and draw a card (hopefully loyal) and then discard a card to to trigger Queen's Guard and draw another card (Renly's game text).

However that's as far as I see it going. There can't be that many loyal cards in a banner deck. Am I missing some other important interaction or is my evaluation of the scenario not positive enough?

Renly fuels the cards you discard to Queensguard to stand him over and over and do challenges - grab renown

Well @Blackhalo23being able to do 4 challenges with a str 6 tricon with renown for no cost, sometimes finishing the round with 1-2 cards advantage is broken level for sure... :D

What's the best case scenario setup for this deck?

How did you find Courtiers and Randyll in the deck? There doesn't seem to be that much str boost here. Played 3 games right now and didn't manage to trigger courtier once. Could have probably done so with oathkeeper or crown, but didn't seem like a best play in the board state (needed bodyguards and milks more).

How well did Wildfire work for you during the day? No missing Doaheris

Well, you usually pass through a oathkeeper or a crown, stand and buff a char, win the next challenge to take the bodyguard/milk. I can't think about a more efficient cost 2 char than one that allows me to stand another character on the board to be honest. Same for Randyll: you have str buff on demand (even if it's only a few cards) so he's absolutely good.

The best case scenario setup is probably Hizdar Jorah roseroad but also a 3 drop a 2 drop redwyne straits or great hall and 1 attachment is great.

@Thorik Wildfire is not only a reset but also a "Renly enabler" if you find Margery before him. I usually don't need to reset but Wildfire is usually fine since their best char will be probably milked and you can end 4 vs 3 with Margery on the board.

Do you usually just open Trading with the Pentoshi? Even against Martell? Would you change the opener to Supporting in that case?

Great deck and performance, as always ;)

The renly/queensguard combo is of course obvious but the choices you made around are very well done. I like the fact you chose not to play flea bottom (one thing I don't know how to do when playing a queensguard voltron deck) to focus on your weaknesses.

Gratz for your second national champion title, 2 times in a row, that's really impressive. And GL for worlds again tho ;)

@SpiriTit really depends on the setup. If you suspect they will open Long Plan (good martell players usually do) a very good opener (if the setup allows it) is game of thrones. The plot will soon be useless against them, but it won't allow them to attack you three times for a win/win situation with long plan and/or dorne. I would say supporting is too important against them to waste it turn one, so it's either pentoshi or game of thrones I guess.

Cheers for the result :D But why u didn't play lanni ? ( yeah you have to explain :P ) The lanni-babies-Voltron deck seems still very strong to me.

This deck is so awesome that it is frustrating: beeing a dwarf among giant

@MadSirianoh I usually don't play the same deck again after I win something with it... Worlds were the exception cause the lack of time and alternative ideas of the moment.

Cool, I ll enjoy it all by myself then :D

The Best Italian player from a long time. Well done my friend!

How do you deal with Dohaeris? Being a deck with a lot of heavy hitters, i'm intrigued.

Otherwise, congrats on the win and what looks like a really fun and solid deck! :D

Hi @Majestic! Dohaeris leaves 10g vs 10g usually, buy in fact here I will likely save one character with a lot of attachments on it, so my board will likely be better than his. I'll probably lose some powers but with tyrell draw and resources I can rebuild very quickly, even if I didn't have renly with queensguard on the board.

Great deck, great pilot.....congrats for winning italian national twice in a row

Congrats Nimer! Did you really felt cool by not using Close Call? I mean, heads on spikes or even any king presence kills Renly straight away...

Yes but what are the chances to draw the other copies of renly? I have many other renown characters. If it happens I’ll win with some other characters. Close call is too slow. Btw, you can milk your own renly to protect him from valar the next turn. ;)

Congrats on your win and on another great deck.

Did beacon get any work done? Did you ever feel like you needed a 3rd milk?

Beacon is huge against control deck to close one turn before. I usually discard 2 cards to pump him to 12 during the first challenge and then swap it for beacon to gain 2 more points. The third milk could be useful but I learned to play with only 2 of them. If you use them only when really needed 2 ae always enough in my experience.

@Nimer can u descibe how this combo with draw adn 2 gold works?

If you have scheming septon and devout freerider in play, when you trigger scheming septon you drawand try to gain 2 gold. The freerider doesn’t allow you to gain 2 gold, so you only draw a card. Since only one of the two parts of the ability did happen, the then part doesn’t happen as well, and the setpon stays on the board.

Thanks for sharing the deck. Would you mind sharing the lists that you tested with Jon Snow initially?

Man even just reading the deck explanation i get the feeling your deck has a way against everything. Congrats for the deck and the win

Congrats on the win! I was just wondering how can the septon really trigger his ability when the free riders are out? do you just draw a card and then the reaction just cancels because you can't gain any gold in which leaves him on the board? I thought if you can fulfill the action then you can't trigger it. Great deck! can't wait to try it out.

@dfaust For everything before "then", you do as much as you can, so draw 1 card but don't gain gold. Because you didn't do everything before "then", you don't do anything after "then".