Trident 3-0: Classic Greyjoy is Back! (W/ Report) 1.0

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No damn The Roseroad??

@Jools Roseroads are slow - you only benefit form the gold in subsequent turns. And classic Greyjoy prefer the game to be finished in 3/4 turns. Much easier to use Noble Cause to throw Euron out and steal some Kingsroads every turn!

Isn't then Lordsport Fisherman too slow for this deck then? And why Black Wind's Crew over Drowned Men? There is only one 4-cost character. Why only one Theon?

@hagarrr has it right on the rose roads, the curve may looks steep but it's actually built to work without any limiteds, the fealty goes a long way. Obviously seeing one or two or getting Euron rolling is great, but it's workable without with a decent setup.

@Jools the Fisherman was an experimental play because he's loyal and greyjoy's thirsty for tempo-draw. I saw him in game 1, played and enjoyed; and game 2, tossed for reserve cause his times of plenty gave me plenty of cards and I didn't have a ton of econ. Probably better as a second wendamyr, I'm just trying him out and he was fine.

This deck doesn't fear first snow too much because it's characters are so sticky and initiative goes it's way, so the lower cost and pillage of black winds is better IMO. Theon's amazing but Ward prevents me from ever taking him over 1x these days. Absolutely go for more if you're ballsy.

@bored2excessI was planning of dropping The Roseroad in exchange for King Balon's Solar when it finally comes out, but it seems right now are capable of dropping this slow econ for good. Have to try this, thanks for the headsup !

How about The Seastone Chair?

And about Black Wind's Crew vs Drowned Men its no about Pillage. This trait is blank and irrelevant to me, because it dosn't matter if you pillage 1 random card. Salty Crown dosn't make it. Drowned God makes better cost curve and can be easily 5/6 strength for just 4 cost.

As you noted, the cost curve is very tight so one gold can be a difference maker. With unopposed tech, strength isn't that relevant for this deck. Personal preference, this is just my reasoning.

Seasoned could find a 1x, but it counter-synergies with fealty and isn't a speed card. Certainly messes with the opponent and is huge pressure, but isn't what this deck is trying to do and it's bursting with tech as is. Could definitely swap a net for one if ya like, though.

Will be testing this later tonight :)

why using Varys's Riddle ?is this so good for this deck and what you expect to copy?

@theon greyjoy I played it all 3 games (it has 5 gold and it usually wins initiative):

Game 1 - Plot 2: Hit on Summons, got to go first and banked a Littlefinger (Victarion and Balon didn't show in the 10).

Game 2 - Plot 1: Hit on Calm, forced them to go first to ensure my end-of-round lead and impair milk/kneel dispensation.

Game 3 - Plot 2: Miss on Noble Cause, still got to go first.

Calling the Banners may get you 1-2 more gold, but I love the utility against Harvest and Marched, and this deck is fast enough that your opponent can get fairly predictable about how they might plot out of whatever the board state is.

thank you very much @bored2excess for the comment

Nice old school GJ deck, congrats for the result!

Some questions: have you considered Appointed instead of Little Bird to prevent Cressen to discard it?

How useful do you find the reader to be? As you pointed out, the curve is steep and he is demanding. The Lordsport Fisherman seems a more reliable and cheap draw tool in a fealty deck, but you are losing a relatively big intrigue icon, so I'm an unsure about that.

Is King of Salt and Rock worth its slot? It's power gaining seems very unreliable

Do you have any particular reason to prefer Alannys Greyjoy to Priest of the Drowned God? Is Alannys ability worth the 1 less strenght?

I really love your idea to cut The Roseroad!

@Astinus Thanks!

• I did little bird because it can go on chumps and is better for setup due to that (also a chump challenge is often all you need there). It did get cressened in game 2, but I was fine with getting a free kneel on a power icon for it. If you're getting it on asha every time, then appointed's better, but my logic was to just try to get the challenge out consistently.
• The reader is awesome, remember he's loyal too so you can get him out reliably on low-gold plots with just one econ card, he's repeatable and he's sticky. It'd be great if he had unopposed tech too, but he's a great body with good icons and draw! Much better than Fisherman for tempo draw IMO.
• KoSaR is the perfect 1x to me, I love it when I see it and don't care too hard if I don't. It was out all game doing work game 1, but only landed me 2 power even with lots of additional pillage. Wrapped up 3 in a much shorter span game 2 as I went on a streak through his Dom tech. It's usually good for between 1-in-2 and 1-in-3 per pillage, which is worth 1 gold. Also a positive attachment for relevant effect defenses.
• Habit I guess? I like cheap lords/ladies when I have Noble Cause, but that's not pertinent to this deck since that plot's reserved for getting out the big 3. If you want Appointed she's unique? No real reason, I didn't even think about that since I haven't done GJ Fealty since before the Priest was out :P

Why don't you play Calling the Banners ? It gives generally a good amount of gold and high initiative.

loving this deck, made some slight changes to add in for Valar :)

@Diplo63 That one would go in Riddle's slot and I like Riddle's utility more personally.

@cart3r Yeah this structure will probably be decently stable to play through valar, just gotta tweak a bit and be a tad more conservative with the hand.

@bored2excess What plot/cards did you change for post valar play? I feel like if anything varys would be the plot to swap for it, but economy is already very tight. Maybe find a way to fit in new Aeron?

@grim Post-Valar I went to this, which is completely different: thronesdb.com

That said, I think this deck is mostly valar-ready, I'd play it as a "play-through" deck, sticking with wildfire as the reset. I'd switch Oxcross to either calling the banners or a second Confiscation. I'd cut the fishing nets and king of salt and rock for more assorted characters, bodyguards, or a nightmares or two; I'd consider flipping BW Crews to Priests and swapping out the Little Birds. Aeron's real pricey on a deck that's already very streamlined, I don't think he's worth losing a renown card or upping the curve in a deck that's not running its own Valar.

Riddle should stay for if your draw is weak on saves/if it's just better you could try to mirror their Valar for a more total wipe. Also Coppers is around even way more now, so more good copy targets.

The biggest problem with this deck in the valar meta (and greyjoy rush overall) is gonna be the lack of draw/intrigue control to prep for/recover from a sharper reset and the fact that the NW matchup has now completely reversed to where it would take a fluke game for GJ unopposed to beat a good NW deck.

I'm currently working on a GJ crossing that may do work, but it was only physically assembled just yesterday.